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Posted 10/27/2009 3:56 PM (#75431 - in reply to #75418)
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-1.how about trying the thing sean did with writing down names of those who attend party and are not afk once they go in... could give them leafs, or tell em to go to some other place to collect leafs.
-2.pretty mucch agree, tho i didnt look at how vnbebe said she will
-3.confused. any1 wanna explain?
-4.girl power. lol time for a char change xD
-5.what does ***ism mean? racism? thats not racism to choose all girls.. unless *** means something else? s3xism?

-6 I CANT VOTE, the system said i voted alrdy when I havent...grr
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Posted 10/27/2009 6:41 PM (#75473 - in reply to #75408)
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dead_roll - 10/27/2009 4:51 PM

Sorry mimi, but you wo't get my vote/votes, let me explain

1 Fourleaf parties 400 leaf parties once a week (fail) reason : too many people will scramble their alts ect in to get the leafs, which leaves lower amount of leaves to people who don't use 2 computers or more than 1 account per computer, meaning that people with 3-4 Alts in the party hall could get 30 leafs each ? (bad bad bad)


- I've alraedy spoken with my ministers about this -- we will do a modified Party like sean did -- thank you for your concern (= and like i've said -- if you have a problem with the way i distribute fourleafs then there will be a thread for you to post up suggestions

2. selling 200 leafs throughout the day major fail Reason: the richer people will just buy out the leafs u put in and poof the lower levels won't get any or barely get any.


- did i mention there will be a limit to how much you can buy? ^-^

3. your events first he event of the w/e u call it "rapid response" Fail again - Reason: simply too much usage of the town announcments! that will annoy a lot of people and usually its always the same people that win over and over!


- not necessarily -- there would be too much people to respond soo we'll probably do it in a partying style with no more than 5 people -- and its not just the only event that will happen :P


4. Choosing your ministers - you pre choosed your ministers uhm all girls ? wheres the strictness in that, wheres the "girls just wanna have fun" u just got that from an old 70's song. You did that in Athena and we all know where that led you to a major failits biased and (not saying tha this will actually happen) but the ministers will prefer their buddies and friends for GA spots and Police but im more concerned about the Popo choosing. But on the other hand thats nothing new.


- :P I'm not sure where you got the me "pre choosing" my ministers was a major fail because Athena was fine with the way I ran things xD . I am just more open then the other GoonZus -- I could have simply told all of my minister to write up an application in the Minister's Thread so I dont get flamed like I am right now with your non-sense arguement. And for your information -- most GoonZus DO have an idea of who thier ministers are -- they're just not as open about it as I am about it :P -- and about the GA and PoPo --- hm I'm not sure where you're getting at with the friends choosing friends so get back to me on that one ^-^ [on a side note -- Shafeek will NOT be a police ]



5. I dislike your idea of "Girl Power" its not discrimination its total ***ism. I never applied for a minister position and never will, but with seeing this, i beleive its total ***ism.


- hmm -- part of point 4 --- well i'm sorry you think its smexism but girls can do it sooo much better than boys D: i like girls Remember back in Season 5 when Sean's minister was ALLL girls ----- yeahh


6. last and final reason you were Goonzu in season 2 and 5 on athena, don't u think its time u stop ? To let someone else without any goonzu Experience be a Goonzu ?, Since your Season 5 was a failure and u well u transfered to Hera during that season if i recall correctly.


- Not really i transfered over during the beginning of Season 6 cause I didnt like the GoonZu ---- Athena is different than Hera -- its a different server you cannot compare and I'm pretty sure my Season 5 was aight (= Why are you discriminating cause i'm being smexism? D:


But nonetheless goodluck to you, and congrats if you win ^^


right xD thanks but no thanks
what kind of person in thier right mind talks smack about the way i do stuff then tell me goodluck o.o i can get personal but for what xD sorry eric -- i didnt know you thought about me this way ~~ but meh goodluck to you!



lol Calalilly --- hmm just lol at you :P

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Posted 10/27/2009 8:34 PM (#75503 - in reply to #75473)
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vnbabe - 10/27/2009 6:41 PM

- :P I'm not sure where you got the me "pre choosing" my ministers was a major fail because Athena was fine with the way I ran things xD . I am just more open then the other GoonZus -- I could have simply told all of my minister to write up an application in the Minister's Thread so I dont get flamed like I am right now with your non-sense arguement. And for your information -- most GoonZus DO have an idea of who thier ministers are -- they're just not as open about it as I am about it :P -- and about the GA and PoPo --- hm I'm not sure where you're getting at with the friends choosing friends so get back to me on that one ^-^


- hmm -- part of point 4 --- well i'm sorry you think its smexism but girls can do it sooo much better than boys D: i like girls Remember back in Season 5 when Sean's minister was ALLL girls ----- yeahh


- Not really i transfered over during the beginning of Season 6 cause I didnt like the GoonZu ---- Athena is different than Hera -- its a different server you cannot compare and I'm pretty sure my Season 5 was aight (= Why are you discriminating cause i'm being smexism? D:



the "athena was fine with the way I ran things" and "Athena is different than Hera -- its a different server you cannot compare" quotes are interesting. I didn't reply earlier when you felt that I had a bias towards you (should be against) because I don't. As I've told you and others before, I don't take offense with people, but if their policies and/or actions are lacking, something should be fixed. If athena was fine with how you did things, why not stay there, or better yet, run again on athena? Afterall, as you said, hera and athena are different and cant be compared.

As for the friends picking friends, I was asked close to the end of s8 my opinions on names for 10 lower positions by one of your ministers. It is interesting to note that not all of these names were on the application lists at that time, so I find it hard to believe that you don't have those already in mind.


"well i'm sorry you think its smexism but girls can do it sooo much better than boys D:"- How does this count as a logical argument? If you think before you write, things may not come across as such. Here is an example:

Eagles are SUPER better at flying than hawks. -> somebody has a bias for eagles
girls can do it soooo much better than boys-> somebody has a bias for girls
italians make better food than germans -> somebody has a bias for italians

for all of these examples, we can also conclude that the person has a bias for one, and conversely has a bias against the other. Please think about that before trying to refute.



The ministry for season 5: BleachRukia, MagicalBunny, Lilyith, melodyxoxo, Calalily
BleachRukia is a guy. Did you forget that? Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't you get married to him? We have all talked on vent before, and have had many convos. I also did not campaign on having an "all girl ministry", nor did I ever say that one gender was better equipped to hold these positions over the other. I chose ministers based on what they were able to offer, not on what is between their legs. This is why it is important to think before posting.



The transfer over to hera after season 5: vnbebe did not transfer her character. She leveled on Hera and as a guild and friends, we would help leech and provide items when necessary. However, athena was not happy about the minister chair problems that were caused on the last few days of your reign on athena in season 5. I won't bother going into detail about other things, as I'm sure a trip to the forum archives would jog our memory. This caused a few problems for the first week of season 6. A president or other foreign head doesn't start screwing around the last few days of his/her term. They may wind down or give out pardons/etc, but they don't intentionally try to sabotage something for the next person to take office. There are a few examples that I am sure people can point out, but those are people (the examples) that are looked upon with disdain.


bebe, you need to realize that we aren't trying to hurt your feelings. You are going for a public position in game, and are thus open to questions and comments from the public. However, you do not deserve flames. For those who try to openly bash or critique with no solution or way to make things better, they only make it worse. As a public person, we have to develop some thick skin to not let the crybabies and the spammers and the flamers affect us. I have to commend you for having such skin, but I think it has formed into a carapace that blocks even the helpful suggestions and valid critiques.


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Posted 10/27/2009 8:37 PM (#75505 - in reply to #75473)
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Posted 10/28/2009 3:17 AM (#75542 - in reply to #75473)
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vnbabe - 10/27/2009 6:41 PM

dead_roll - 10/27/2009 4:51 PM

Sorry mimi, but you wo't get my vote/votes, let me explain

1 Fourleaf parties 400 leaf parties once a week (fail) reason : too many people will scramble their alts ect in to get the leafs, which leaves lower amount of leaves to people who don't use 2 computers or more than 1 account per computer, meaning that people with 3-4 Alts in the party hall could get 30 leafs each ? (bad bad bad)


- I've alraedy spoken with my ministers about this -- we will do a modified Party like sean did -- thank you for your concern (= and like i've said -- if you have a problem with the way i distribute fourleafs then there will be a thread for you to post up suggestions

2. selling 200 leafs throughout the day major fail Reason: the richer people will just buy out the leafs u put in and poof the lower levels won't get any or barely get any.


- did i mention there will be a limit to how much you can buy? ^-^

3. your events first he event of the w/e u call it "rapid response" Fail again - Reason: simply too much usage of the town announcments! that will annoy a lot of people and usually its always the same people that win over and over!


- not necessarily -- there would be too much people to respond soo we'll probably do it in a partying style with no more than 5 people -- and its not just the only event that will happen :P


4. Choosing your ministers - you pre choosed your ministers uhm all girls ? wheres the strictness in that, wheres the "girls just wanna have fun" u just got that from an old 70's song. You did that in Athena and we all know where that led you to a major failits biased and (not saying tha this will actually happen) but the ministers will prefer their buddies and friends for GA spots and Police but im more concerned about the Popo choosing. But on the other hand thats nothing new.


- :P I'm not sure where you got the me "pre choosing" my ministers was a major fail because Athena was fine with the way I ran things xD . I am just more open then the other GoonZus -- I could have simply told all of my minister to write up an application in the Minister's Thread so I dont get flamed like I am right now with your non-sense arguement. And for your information -- most GoonZus DO have an idea of who thier ministers are -- they're just not as open about it as I am about it :P -- and about the GA and PoPo --- hm I'm not sure where you're getting at with the friends choosing friends so get back to me on that one ^-^ [on a side note -- Shafeek will NOT be a police ]



5. I dislike your idea of "Girl Power" its not discrimination its total ***ism. I never applied for a minister position and never will, but with seeing this, i beleive its total ***ism.


- hmm -- part of point 4 --- well i'm sorry you think its smexism but girls can do it sooo much better than boys D: i like girls Remember back in Season 5 when Sean's minister was ALLL girls ----- yeahh


6. last and final reason you were Goonzu in season 2 and 5 on athena, don't u think its time u stop ? To let someone else without any goonzu Experience be a Goonzu ?, Since your Season 5 was a failure and u well u transfered to Hera during that season if i recall correctly.


- Not really i transfered over during the beginning of Season 6 cause I didnt like the GoonZu ---- Athena is different than Hera -- its a different server you cannot compare and I'm pretty sure my Season 5 was aight (= Why are you discriminating cause i'm being smexism? D:


But nonetheless goodluck to you, and congrats if you win ^^


right xD thanks but no thanks
what kind of person in thier right mind talks smack about the way i do stuff then tell me goodluck o.o i can get personal but for what xD sorry eric -- i didnt know you thought about me this way ~~ but meh goodluck to you!



lol Calalilly --- hmm just lol at you :P


First of all i was pointing out the major loopholes in your campaign, the ones that should of already been explained in details in your campaign application, and which were not! I was not flaming you and on the other hand, i worte this 1-2 days after the vote has already started ^^

secondly, the modified fourleaf party will not i repeat will not work with 1 leaf party per week, cause lots of people won't be able to attend the leafs party for one, and this is for a 1 leaf party per week ^^, 2nd, if u get 100 people in the names list, 400/100 = 4 leafs per person, hows that going to help the people ? get more leafs?. Now the question about the 200 leafs sold a day, how will u look or figure out that people don't buy them all? my answer is u can't so basically the 200 leafs sold should be thrown in to another leaf party IMO.

Now the matter of the smexism, yes its down right wrong to make a campaign using "girl power" as a motivation. Do you see any members Man or women only choosing Women as their cabinet members ? no you don't ? explanation "this would bring too much drama" Like sean said u should read befre you type ^^. As u said they're could be a lot of things said about this ^^ but i don't want to go into further details. Now for the matter of Pre-Choosing your ministers, i doubt that athena was fine with you choosing your ministers, if i recall all your wins were tight in athena ^^ so basically u won by a popularity vote not because of your leadership or the way u handled things.!

Now on the matter of your Rapid response event, so what 5 people will be allowed to participate in that even at any given time ? Is that all ? Yes u can get as many events as u want but its still IMO a bad event ^^ my explanation (Some people type faster than others, others are slower typers, others are really fast, some don't have their typing touch or w/e u call it "doigt?" in french. And also some people don't respond as fast as some others do.)

Now for the Smexism part again, choosing all girls ^^ as i said its wrong a mix of people is much better than choosing your friends to be ministers ^^ and well in this case them all being girls makes it even worst sorry. For choosing your ministers pre-election is bad, what your trying to o here is get more votes by offering spots ^^ A goonzu Shouldn't be biased about who will or will not be in the cabinet or shouldn't already have their ministers pre-choosen.

As Sean said Anita, u had left your position as Goonzu to come to Hera before and around the end of your term, Why ? IMO its because u had trouble lots of trouble with your S5 and wanted to run away from things. So should a Goonzu Run away from his/her duties ? No, we saw this with Others that quit because of too many problems and people being angry.

Now as for you saying Thanks but no thanks to me saying goodluck to you, well it just shows your not worthy of being in leadership. I pointed out my opinions for others too see, and others to think about and for you to explain and i still encouraged u in the end to continue and wished u luck. BTW u can get personal idc i can take the heat but can you ?.... From your responses i'd say its 50/50 I could of added alot more stuff to the loopholes but i didn't.

P.S. im not trying to sabotage you or make you look bad, im trying to make u better, but if u feel differently, its your opinion, but i still beleive that your way of distributing leafs have lots of loopholes still, and that we don't see all the leafs going into the system ^^.

P.S.S i still stand by my Godluck to you Anita ^^ but i stand a little worried about season 9 now with what u answered to my post ^^

As for Calalily wow i never thought of the day that we would agree on something xD weeee
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Posted 10/28/2009 11:26 AM (#75591 - in reply to #75542)
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to deadbeat -- i understand your thoughts and feelings about my "loopholes" and about the fourleaf system and what not -- and like i said if it doesnt go as planned then there will be a suggestion thread for you to post up. And with my pre-choosing my ministers; its not a fact that they will be choosing me as a GoonZu -- so I'm not sure where you are getting from that. in fact i told them straight up that they don't need to choose me as a GoonZu if they don't feel like it. Who knows cashmoneygirl might vote for her guildie Sunniva? and babyuni might vote for her townie FrostBite517 ---

for the rapid response event -- hmm yes people may type a bit faster than others but you gotta wait until i say the phrase to say the word anyways.. wouldnt it occur to you to have type the letters in the box before pressing enter.. sooo its a matter of who sees the phrase first and to press enter first --- now some may have better internet than others or others lag -- who knows.. but you cannot really diss an event if you haven't tried it out.

Popularity vote pfffft~ pffft! So like if I win GoonZu S9 on hera .. damn.. i must be popular ------- o god.. (sarcastic)


I didn't mind your suggestions .. just your point six.

6. last and final reason you were Goonzu in season 2 and 5 on athena, don't u think its time u stop ? To let someone else without any goonzu Experience be a Goonzu ?, Since your Season 5 was a failure and u well u transfered to Hera during that season if i recall correctly.


hehe --
then you go and say this

P.S. im not trying to sabotage you or make you look bad, im trying to make u better, but if u feel differently, its your opinion, but i still beleive that your way of distributing leafs have lots of loopholes still, and that we don't see all the leafs going into the system ^^.


*scratches head --- hmmm

and wish me good luck anyways when you say i'm a failure --- i for one don't take things personal unless there's a reason to it. .. i mean i talk to you deadbeat :\ and for you to say something like that hurts--ish ^^ but thanks for your goodluck and i feel like its sarcasm (=


and about Calalilly -- girl hates me for no reason so meh.


and to sean thanks for pointing that out -- and i only asked that because you've only reallly "suggested" on my GoonZu campaign page... i mean yu are open to ask anything just I dont like it when its only being asked to me. so that's where the biased comes from.

And for the friends choosing friends -- I really don't mind what my minister is doing to get the GAs/Popos she wants -- she's been working hard with reading apps trying to get a broader crowd to sign up for GA/Popo positions and thats where the asking TCs/players about who would do a good job. I'm not sure asking around is choosing friends but.. I dont think its wrong to do so...


And as for my Season 5 chairs -- my reign was OVER when I changed those minister spots --- everything was fine until they couldnt post up the new ministers for S6 -- which was not my fault because the server was suposed to reset every new GoonZu day/year/reign -- and i believe the chairs on Hera for S6 wasn't working for the first few days also. . . sooo they put me with changing the miniser spots to bugging out the chairs which is like ROFL?! I dont think I was that powerful to do it on both servers. *evil laughs?


I still like my all girls ministry and those quotes are just quotes, maybe i should watch what i say - but they are just quotes and you dont need to go quoting my quotes :D - For all i know my girl chars can be dudes but acting as a girl :P --- sorry for reminising your S5 Ministers but i remembered a time where we were like omg, all your ministers are girls! ^^ And of corse I knew Bleach is a dude (= But I was just saying you did have an all girls (char) ministry....

Here is the thing with basing it between the legs and whatever -- I am also basing it on what the girls have to offer too -- and there are many girls that have many to offer -- others have more or less ... I just thought it was a neat idea to go about it. And I know I've probably lost votes due to this "all girls ministry" --- but thats okay I don't mind it soo why always bringing it up -- it is what it is and it'll stay like that unless they do a bad job and get fired.


- ty for you questions/concerns/suggestions/comments, but please keep flaming to a minimum (:
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Posted 10/28/2009 12:34 PM (#75612 - in reply to #70958)
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""I still like my all girls ministry and those quotes are just quotes, maybe i should watch what i say - but they are just quotes and you dont need to go quoting my quotes :D - For all i know my girl chars can be dudes but acting as a girl :P --- sorry for reminising your S5 Ministers but i remembered a time where we were like omg, all your ministers are girls! ^^ And of corse I knew Bleach is a dude (= But I was just saying you did have an all girls (char) ministry....

Here is the thing with basing it between the legs and whatever -- I am also basing it on what the girls have to offer too -- and there are many girls that have many to offer -- others have more or less ... I just thought it was a neat idea to go about it. And I know I've probably lost votes due to this "all girls ministry" --- but thats okay I don't mind it soo why always bringing it up -- it is what it is and it'll stay like that unless they do a bad job and get fired.""



First of all how are u to judge without even looking at the minister applicants that others can't do a better job, u choosing all girls is fine with me idc, but saying it openly and saying that "girls just wanna have fun" ect ect and saying that girls would do a better job is again reffering to smexism. But from what your saying or what im understanding is that girls have more to offer then men. Not only girls can make events, not only girls can hunt and get mats also ya know men can do that just as well, and sometimes alot better too, my suggestion to you is scratch the names of your ministers and start over from the applications page, because from what i see i don't see many of the ministers you choosed having a thread there. To me its better to see what they have to offer, then just hear it from another person that they can offer soo many things. And well i ddint see the aplications for the others goonzus because i would check their applications with scrutiny also >< But since u were goonzu in 2 other seasons u still should get more attention than others. ^^ BTW if u read the applications pages you'll notice that not many people do apply anymore because they always, always apply for nothing or it seems that every season they apply for nothing ^^ so they probably tell themselves "why bother, i won't get it"

Edited by dead_roll 10/28/2009 12:35 PM
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Posted 10/29/2009 12:38 AM (#75773 - in reply to #70958)
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gogogogo vnbebe!!! winwinwinwin
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Posted 10/30/2009 2:38 AM (#75973 - in reply to #70958)
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hi im cool so good luck

Hmmm EDIT, I've noticed that no other person running for goonzu has written a campaign on the forum

once again i'm cool so yea, i'm just cool

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Calalily
Posted 11/5/2009 7:25 PM (#78552 - in reply to #70958)
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hello, i am not the girl who hate someone with no reason. honestly i dun like u, even u dun wan to know or hear but i still wan to be honest for my self I DUN LIKE U. why? because u always made drama , actually i dun care how many drama u made but as long as dun put me into ur drama . Dun tell me u never made those stuff to me. i am sure u understand wat i mean. if the player know me well they will know i am not the person who hate someone without reason. so again if u wan to bring me into this forum drama i dun mind to made more comment on tat. ^^
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Posted 11/6/2009 4:50 AM (#78617 - in reply to #78552)
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Boo! calalily you got no reason to hate bebe
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Posted 11/6/2009 5:38 AM (#78622 - in reply to #70958)
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my character is a girl like bleachrukia, calalily, lilyith and so on. so give me a minister spot.. I deserve a position better than anyone in this game ^^.
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Posted 11/6/2009 7:25 PM (#78763 - in reply to #78617)
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xXSossaXx - 11/6/2009 4:50 AM

Boo! calalily you got no reason to hate bebe


XD i guess u dk one thing tat she was telling me if i dun wan made peace war with her she gona go talk my bf about tat. and why i hate her? a good question, she like to complain my stuff to my bf is tat a good reason? ^^
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Posted 11/8/2009 11:36 AM (#79074 - in reply to #78763)
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bebe always complain -.- also I dont think she liked me in athena... boo dont hate just ignore
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